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Help with XKeys 68 Jog and Shuttle and Premiere Pro CC2017
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Help with XKeys 68 Jog and Shuttle and Premiere Pro CC2017 Wed Aug 02, 2017 10:00 pm  •   #11519
phillyac



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Hi Everyone

Sorry is this has been posted before, but I am completely and utterly new to this whole programming thing. I got the XKeys 68 Jog and Shuttle, and need to set it up rather quickly to work in Premier Pro CC2017. I am running on Mac Sierra. I have no issues setting up simple one key command shortcuts from Premiere into the XKeys unit, and even multiple keystroke shortcuts are no problem either, however, I am at a complete LOSS when it comes to programming the Jog and Shuttle wheel.

I need the Outer Wheel to be able to scrub through the Premiere Pro timeline as it would be expected...a small turn of about 5 degrees moves it at a slow speed, and in increments up to the full 15 degrees to make the timeline scrub at a very fast forward and reverse (if the dial is turned to the left) Speed.

I then will need to have the inner dial able to "scrub" frame by frame, through the timeline...the faster I spin the wheel, the faster the scrub, but always in one frame increments.

Does any Premiere Pro users out there have a solution for me? I've seen some examples on here where people post pictures of the "tree-like" set up of blocks, and the jog wheel seems very complex, and honestly...not very intuitive at all. Like I said...I'm NO PROGRAMMER.

If someone has this already figured out, can they please post a picture of their block setup for both the outer wheel and inner wheel? And explain which block is doing what?
I would greatly appreciate it!

Thank you very much
Leon
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Fri Aug 04, 2017 3:55 pm  •   #11524
phillyac



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Wow! No responses? Really? No one is using this for Premiere Pro?? I find that amazing. No one can post their solution?
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Fri Aug 04, 2017 8:00 pm  •   #11528
Ken
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Does Premier Pro have keyboard shortcuts for scrubbing through its timeline? If so, then there is probably a solution. If scrubbing requires mouse movements, then that would be much more difficult.
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Reply Fri Aug 04, 2017 8:50 pm  •   #11531
phillyac



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Hi

Yes, PPCC2017 does have keyboard shortcuts for scrubbing and scrolling, however thats not the real issue. The issue is how to interpret that with the Keys program.....I'm not familiar with stacking the blocks in a way that makes the "node tree" type plot that programs the system. I know how to do simple single key commands. I was just wondering if someone has already done the programming for the scroll wheel and scrub control for PPCC2017, and maybe they can post their design...I've seen other people post their work on other posts on here. I mean, come on! I'm sure SOMEONE has done it! LOL!
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wow Sat Nov 25, 2017 8:12 pm  •   #11734
phillyac



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wow...several months after posting this cry for help from the community and still nothing...I guess I made a mistake buying this item and trying to make this software work...I guess it's useless
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AAAAAaaaannnnddd still no reply from the community. Amazing Tue Dec 12, 2017 8:29 pm  •   #11791
phillyac



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Obviously this thing is MADE to have the jogwheel work the way I need it to...however the quality control absolutely sucks when there is no documentation on HOW to have it work...and NO ONE...absolutely NO ONE has proven that they got it to work, or wanted to help or share information on how they got it to work. Very disappointed that I got this thing, and disappointed in the "support" that this group claims to give.....obviously it's nothing other than just a title
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Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:08 am  •   #11794
Ken
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I don't know which keyboard commands are used to control the scrubbing functions in Premier Pro, but the setups below are general-purpose uses of the dials on the XK-68.

For the inner dial, Value Selector blocks are used to detect when the dial moves and trigger zero-duration Pulse blocks. In turn, the Pulse blocks trigger the output.


For the outer dial, the value of the dial itself is used to control a Rate building block. The Rate block triggers the output faster as its input increases. The Multiplication blocks can be used to scale the rate that the dial produces.


In each case, the Beep building blocks from the examples would need to be replaced with Single Key blocks that produce the required keyboard commands.
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Fri Dec 22, 2017 4:22 am  •   #11820
dabo



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I am not a video editor and I have never seen Premiere Pro in action. The following is a guess based on a little bit of Google searching:

In Premiere Pro the key equivalents for jogging by a frame are the left and right arrow keys.

In Ken’s example for the inner dial, replace “pop” and “tink” with the left arrow keystroke and the right arrow keystroke respectively. This should make the inner dial a frame by frame jog control.

Apparently Premiere Pro uses the J,K and L keys for shuttling.
Assigning J and L keystrokes to “pop” and “tink” in the outer wheel example should give basic shuttling ability.
The K key stops the shuttling in either direction and should be output as a single keystroke when the wheel value is zero.
The use of the Shift key is for slow speed shuttling. It could be employed using a number range building block to trigger it at low values of the outer wheel offset.
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